From the May 2003 Idaho Observer:

Chemtrails, Dr. McCain and the Detoxification of America

by Lanny Messinger

Dr. Marijah McCain is a naturopath, master herbalist, homeopath and research microscopist with a following of a quarter million students and customers. In March, 2003, I was interviewing Dr. McCain when she began describing an attack on her life which she believes was a result of her outspoken activism regarding the "chemtrail" issue. The excerpted conversation below is not intended to incite fear, but to inspire hope. We can survive the multi-directional weapons of mass destruction arrayed at us by understanding the principles of detoxification and natural healing.

Dr. McCain: I was nearly killed -- let's see, it was December, three years ago. I was very actively involved in the chemtrail situation when it came out because it really, really upset me. I was furious because I am a doctor trying to save people and I know this crap that they're spraying on everybody is making us sick.

I was very actively involved on the Internet and with an organization in Houston. About 11:00 at night a chopper hovered over my house and sprayed something that almost killed my son and myself. I experienced complete kidney failure. My lungs filled up with fluid and I couldn't breathe. I had to be put on oxygen. I was sick for at least 10 days -- life and death -- and so was my son.

I lost my teeth over it. My teeth -- I had really great teeth -- but the enamel just literally came off and the inside of my teeth fell out. And that was within four months of being sprayed. I still have the teeth to this day.

I tried to tell people -- I had photographs -- but nobody would listen. This is a very serious thing we've got going on in this country. I don't know who the hell is behind this, but it is very, very serious.

Lanny: Did you take any test samples to figure out what that chemical was?

Dr. McCain: No, not at that time. I had collected a bunch of samples [of chemtrails] and we concurred pretty much with what Carnicom was talking about on his website with the barium and aluminum, etc., and the heavy metal poisoning (visit

But also the barium was radioactive and we'd been picking up low-level radiation with the radiation meter when the spraying is heavy. So people are slowly being poisoned with radiation. This is why thyroids are going out. People are coming down with all kinds of weird rashes. A lot of that is radiation poisoning.

Lanny: What do you recommend for counteracting that?

Dr. McCain: Well, the chemtrail issue is difficult because they use different things in different areas. We have reports [where] they'll spray South Carolina and everybody will get lower gastrointestinal complications like diarrhea. In other areas a spray event will result in the reporting of widespread sinus and the upper respiratory distress. Still other areas may report meningitis-type symptoms after airplanes have been seen spraying.

The most commonly reported effects of chemtrails is dry skin and a bad or metallic taste in the mouth. The barium and the aluminum and other metals found in the jet fuel are linked to widespread chemical poisoning after chemtrails have been noticed.

Samples of chemtrail residue have also indicated the presence of bacteria and other microbes. It's anybody's guess what other biological materials will be sprayed on us. I believe West Nile virus may have been spread across the country with the use of airplanes. It may just be a theory, but it's more logical to believe WNV was spread with airplanes than believe the government's theory it's being spread by infected birds.

So there's a bunch of stuff on my web site about that under The Air Pollution Solution. We've got the barium detox and the aluminum and EDTA. I developed some specific things to target specific problems with these chemtrails and I try to stay on top of those things. Of course, we use them all here. And we back it up with hair analysis to make sure that our bodies are not accumulating barium and not accumulating aluminum.

Lanny: There's a lot things we're not being told the truth about.

Dr. McCain: Well, exactly.

Lanny: What do you think is the purpose of chemtrails?

Dr. McCain: I've read everything I can find on the subject -- everything from they're trying to get rid of the population to they're trying to control the weather to they're using it for HAARP and mind control. I honestly have no idea why they are spraying us but I know chemtrails are real and I know they're making people sick. I also know people are dying from heart attacks due to bacterial infections that reach the heart. Autopsies have been performed on people who had high levels of barium and aluminum in their systems at the time of death. Barium is extremely toxic and aluminum is really bad because it crosses the blood/brain barrier. Aluminum harms people's brain function so they can't think any more. Hundreds of people who have been interviewed have reported they have trouble thinking now. This is one of the reasons why I developed Formula One with the EDTA. That was specifically developed to pull those heavy metals out of the system.

There's some areas in the states where people don't see them [chemtrails]. For instance, I have a friend who who lives not too far from President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas. They don't spray down there -- ever.

Lanny: Gee, I wonder why? That's interesting.

Dr. McCain: Isn't it?

We're in some serious, troubled times and this government and this medical system are not here to save people, I can tell you that. People have got to save themselves. And the problem is they get so depressed.

Peoples' mental state is so closely linked to their physical health so to discuss physical health we must also discuss mental health.

Doctors tell you it's the brain that gets chemically imbalanced and that imbalance results in depression. But that is only part of the story which begins with the liver function and toxicity levels. We have found that many people experiencing serious depression will come right out of it once they detoxify their bodies. There are several ways this can be accomplished and have had excellent results with "Essiac" tea (The IO, April, 2003).

An example of how one's mental state can affect their health can be easily illustrated. When one suffers the loss of a loved one they may experience a terrible state of shock that lasts for days. The stress causes the body to release toxins being stored in the fat tissues in the body, effectively poisoning it. A variety of symptoms including lethargy and depression may develop. When they take their complaints to a medical doctor, they are commonly referred to a psychiatrist for treatment. Most psychiatrists will prescribe Prozac to treat the mental manifestations of a biochemical imbalance. Rather than quickly restoring balance with a simple four-herb tea blend such as Essiac, the body continues to be poisoned with pharmaceutical drugs; rather than experiencing a restoration of mental and physical health the cycle of depression has a tendency to deepen and can result in becoming suicidal or institutionalized.

Fortunately, at any point before one actually commits suicide, the four-herb tea, combined with nutritional support, will usually reverse toxin-induced imbalances, prescribed or otherwise. Within two weeks severely depressed people will start to feel better and their brains will start to clear. They will have more energy and be on the road to getting their lives back.

This cannot be stressed enough. I have brought people back from just the edge of what I call "darkness" because we were able to restore biochemical balance to people who had been poisoned or who had unwittingly poisoned themselves. Do you follow me?

Lanny: I've been there. I had very serious, chronic asthma and those inhalers were poisoning me. I didn't realize it until I went off the inhalers. The first thing I did was move out of the city and the pollution, then I could breathe better, immediately. Then I started taking St. John's wort because I read where it was good for asthma. After several months on the St. John's wort, I went off the inhalers. I really didn't do anything else.

Dr. McCain: The primary action of St. John's wort is to cleanse the liver. So the herb cleansed your liver and your asthma went away. This is why St. John's wort, which grows wild all over the Northwest U.S. is such a valuable medicinal plant.

Lanny: Well, I finally went off the inhalers. But before that the doctors wanted to put me on Prozac as a solution to counteract the symptoms I was having from the toxins in the inhalers.

Dr. McCain: The primary function of the four-herb tea (the recipe for Rene Caisse's 'Essiac' tea was published in the April, 2003 edition of The IO) is also to cleanse the liver. The liver's primary function is to filter the blood before it enters the circulatory system. If the liver fails to filter toxins from the blood, they begin to circulate throughout the body causing the immune system to fail and diseases to develop.

We have noticed that many physical and mental problems begin to clear up almost immediately after people start drinking Essiac tea. It's become our number one formula to treat any kind of skin ailment, including psoriasis and acne. The skin is the last eliminatory organ so, when the liver is toxic, the poisons start coming out the skin.

I treated a little guy, a child, who had been seriously poisoned with SEVIN dust [a garden pesticide]. What happened was this child got very, very ill. Regular doctors had tried all sorts of antibiotics and other pharmaceutical preparations and but the little boy just kept getting sicker and sicker. So they had called me and the mother described the symptoms. I told her it sounded to me like her child had been poisoned. I put the child on the four-herb tea. Once the chemicals were detoxed out of his body the child quickly recovered and came back to normal.

And also I don't know if you want to mention this or not, because it is very controversial, but I have had an awful lot of children who had been given MMR and DPT shots and subsequently manifested symptoms to the extreme of autism where they can't talk any more and have serious learning disorders. I formulated homeopathic formulas to counter-balance these vaccines, but I also put these children on the four-herb tea with excellent results.

My most dramatic case was in China where a child, after having been vaccinated, quit speaking and began running around on his tippy-toes, banging his head against the wall. It was a very sad case because the child was normal before he got vaccinated. It took about 10 months of working with these people to restore this child to good health and normal behavior. We developed a homeopathic MMR detox made up and used it in conjunction with the four-herb tea.

These are very, very dramatic cases where severe mental and physical conditions are reversed after medical doctors could provide no solutions whatsoever.

Lanny: Yeah, except more drugs.

Dr. McCain: Well, yeah, that child would have been institutionalized. So I really went out of my way to save that child and since then have saved a lot of children from being locked up.

God really moved me to help save the remnant. That was why I started this whole business. That's why I started with herbology -- to teach people how to use the herbs, teach them how to grow them, teach them how to put them in their back yard so they could look after themselves. And this was 20 years ago I had this burden. I saw it coming.


Note: About three weeks after I interviewed Dr. McCain I sent her an email asking her what herbs/supplements she took in order to survive the helicopter spraying attack on her home. This was her response:

"Kidneys failed completely and lungs filled up with fluid and I almost drowned. I was on oxygen and used the following:

Asparagus Extract. Dr. Chi's to help detox the kidneys fast

Colloidal Silver. 500 ppm. 4 times a day

Olive Leaf Extract. anti-viral. 9 caps a day

4-Herb Tea. 3 times a day

KB. herbal diuretic to help remove the fluid build up. I was drowning in my lung fluid.

COQ10 with Hawthorn. 100 mg. 2 times a day to protect the heart as it was also taking on fluid.

Super II laxative to move the toxins through fast

Homeopathic Kidney and Lung support

The Asparagus Extract saved my life in this case.

I asked Dr. McCain what herbs or supplements are most effective in surviving weapons of mass destruction. She indicated that colloidal silver would be at the top of the list because of its antimicrobial properties.

Olive leaf extract is second on the list because of its antiviral properties.

The four-herb tea is necessary to detoxify the liver and kidneys.

Dr. McCain indicated that other microbials such as grapefruit seed extract and oil of oregano are also very effective.

Those who have been reading The Idaho Observer for the last four years have been exposed to the principles of detox and natural healing through Ingri Cassel's "Back to Basics" column on page 10. In years past we may have had the luxury of entertaining the novelty notion of detox and natural healing. However our present state of toxicological affairs indicate that government and organized medicine have failed us so utterly they are the primary delivery systems for toxins that enter our bloodstreams. If we are to survive government and organized medicine, we must become competant with detox and comfortable with principles of natural healing. Dr. McCain can be reached by writing:

Herbal Healer Academy
127 McCain Dr.
Mt. View, Arkansas 72560

or by calling 870-269-4177

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